Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Wed, 10 Oct 90 13:34:25 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Wed, 10 Oct 90 13:32:34 EDT Received: from rpi.edu by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA03513; Wed, 10 Oct 90 12:59:37 EDT Received: from MTS.RPI.EDU by rpi.edu (4.1/RPI-ITS-SM50); id AA08574; Wed, 10 Oct 90 12:58:50 EDT for PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 12:59:14 EDT From: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu To: PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu Message-Id: <1980352@MTS.RPI.EDU> Subject: Hello? Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 12:59:14 EDT From: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu To: PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu Subject: Hello? Has this list suddenly stopped happening, or am I just no longer on it? If I'm off it, please put me back on! John_Wilson@MTS.RPI.EDU Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Thu, 11 Oct 90 05:42:40 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Thu, 11 Oct 90 05:40:34 EDT Received: from sunic.sunet.se by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA27605; Thu, 11 Oct 90 05:09:33 EDT Received: from AIDA.CSD.UU.SE by sunic.sunet.se (5.61+IDA/KTH/LTH/1.159) id AAsunic21152; Thu, 11 Oct 90 10:09:24 +0100 Date: Thu 11 Oct 90 10:08:24 From: Johnny Billquist Subject: Re: Hello? To: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu Cc: PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, D89.JOHNNY-BILLQUIST@aida.csd.uu.se In-Reply-To: <1980352@MTS.RPI.EDU> Message-Id: <901011100824.24.D89.JOHNNY-BILLQUIST@AIDA.CSD.UU.SE> Date: Thu 11 Oct 90 10:08:24 From: Johnny Billquist Subject: Re: Hello? To: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu Cc: PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, D89.JOHNNY-BILLQUIST@aida.csd.uu.se In-Reply-To: <1980352@MTS.RPI.EDU> Sorry, Wilson, but sometimes the contributions to pdp8-lovers come scarse. You are welcome to add to the volume. Anybody got any good pdp8 trivia or quiz to share with others? Johnny Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Tue, 16 Oct 90 00:05:51 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Tue, 16 Oct 90 00:04:03 EDT Received: from BU.EDU by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA03221; Mon, 15 Oct 90 23:40:13 EDT Received: by BU.EDU (1.99) Mon, 15 Oct 90 23:40:08 EDT Received: by icad.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03214; Mon, 15 Oct 90 23:22:19 EDT Date: Mon, 15 Oct 90 23:22:19 EDT From: lcs@icad.com (Larry Stone) Message-Id: <9010160322.AA03214@icad.COM> To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: pdp-8/L system available Date: Mon, 15 Oct 90 23:22:19 EDT From: lcs@icad.com (Larry Stone) To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: pdp-8/L system available I need to get rid of a pdp-8/L system. I'd like to swap it for something I can use (pdp-8/e parts, or perhaps just the satisfaction of sending it to a good home: o pdp-8/L with 4K core and current-loop console port. o extra pdp-8/L, maybe working, for parts. o one fancy tabletop cover for a pdp-8/L o ASR-33 Teletype with stand and copyholder. o High-speed paper tape reader/punch. o Maintenance Manuals for the '8/L, tape unit, and Teletype. o Some software on paper tape. o Some software manuals. It all worked perfectly a few years ago and has been stored safely since. Everything must be taken together from New Haven, Connecticut, before the end of October. I also have a "Sugarman Labs T8" CRT terminal from the early 1970's, available to any taker. It includes a detached keyboard, logic unit (about the size of a PC/AT), and monitor. Please call me if you can't get email here (Cambridge, MA) by Wednesday: Work: 617-868-2800 x250 Home: 617-623-6175 After Wednesday: 203-787-5529 Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Thu, 18 Oct 90 15:28:34 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Thu, 18 Oct 90 15:25:44 EDT Received: from gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA17096; Thu, 18 Oct 90 14:33:21 EDT Received: by gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU id AA10247; Thu, 18 Oct 90 14:32:59 EDT Date: Thu, 18 Oct 90 14:32:59 EDT From: brian@gaak.lcs.mit.edu (Brian McAllister) Message-Id: <9010181832.AA10247@gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU> To: info-pdp@transarc.com, pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu.brian.arpa Date: Thu, 18 Oct 90 14:32:59 EDT From: brian@gaak.lcs.mit.edu (Brian McAllister) To: info-pdp@transarc.com, pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu.brian.arpa Date: October 18, 1990 From: Jack Reyes Perception Technology Corp 40 Shawmut Park Canton, MA 02021 (617) 821-0320 x 283 To: Anyone interested in donated hardware Our company has just recently "cleaned house" and I am looking for interested parties that would like to receive a donation of used hardware. The inventory is as follows: o PDP 11/34 system with RL02 drives o PTC proprietary speech equipment boards (ARM-I and AF-I's) o Wall Transformers/Adapters (12v & 24v AC and DC) o Telemetrics equipment o VT100's o VT103's o VT220's o VT101's o keyboards (for above) o DEC RX180 Floppy Disk drives o DECwriter II printer o Modems (300/1200/2400 baud) o Components, Chips, Etc. o Power Supplies o Chassis (various BA-11 Q-bus) o Emulex PE05 tape drive o Scotch DC600A High Density tape cassette media o DTMF keypads o Audio test gear If you have any interest in any or all of the above inventory, please contact me by phone ASAP! Note: DO NOT REPLY BY MAIL as I have no way of reading it! If you do not have a need for this equipment but know someone who might, please have them contact me ASAP! This equipment is scheduled for the trash masher if I cannot find someone to claim it in the next several days. So, please call me ASAP! Regards, Jack Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:53:25 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:51:14 EDT Received: from mc.lcs.mit.edu by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA27455; Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:22:06 EDT Received: from PO5.ANDREW.CMU.EDU by mc.lcs.mit.edu id aa22258; 19 Oct 90 11:21 EDT Received: by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for PDP8-LOVERS@mc.lcs.mit.edu; Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:21:18 EDT Received: via switchmail; Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VUI.Andrew.3.20.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.vax.3 via MS.5.6.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.vax_3; Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:19:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:19:28 -0400 (EDT) From: John Hudak To: PDP8-LOVERS@mc.lcs.mit.edu Subject: HELP - Manuals wanted Date: Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:19:28 -0400 (EDT) From: John Hudak To: PDP8-LOVERS@mc.lcs.mit.edu Subject: HELP - Manuals wanted I know this is not directly related to PDP8's but their hanging from my PDP-8/E...... I have some equipment that I am trying to get some manuals about. I am desperate so any help would *really* be appreciated. I'll even pay for copying and postage. I have a HP 2635-B console terminal (looks like a LA-120), and a Racal Vadec modem VA-811/12 and what I think is an autodialer VA-831-B housed in a VA1601U cabinet. I *think* that the units were working before I got them but I need to know what the zillion dip switches on both modem cards do. The HP printer head keeps oscillating between both ends of its travel and I don't know if it not connected corrctly of if it has an internal problem. Again, any help is most graciously welcome. John J. Hudak Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Fri, 19 Oct 90 14:45:26 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Fri, 19 Oct 90 14:43:33 EDT Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA29956; Fri, 19 Oct 90 13:32:17 EDT Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA04194; Fri, 19 Oct 90 13:32:46 EDT Date: Fri, 19 Oct 90 13:32:45 EDT From: Charles Lasner To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: Kermit-12 Announcement Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 90 13:32:45 EDT From: Charles Lasner To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: Kermit-12 Announcement I noticed that someone from the group requested that KERMIT-12's announcement be posted to this group. Since I am the author, I am taking the liberty of doing it! This is the latest "official" release of Kermit-12 to Columbia, so you can all grab it via FTP, etc., but I am working on it currently. There will be some DECmate-specific changes out soon, as quickly as some open issues can get finalized. If anyone has any useful input regarding acquiring the infamous DECmate "slushware notes" (aka DECmate II Firmware Specification or something like that) please come forward NOW. This will help speedup the release of the new program. Does anyone know of an available configuration to test Kermit-12 on? I need assistance on the following configurations (PDP-8's are NOT a problem at all!): DECmate III without the internal modem option DECmate III with the internal modem option DECmate III+ (it don't have no modem!) DECmate I with DP278A DECmate I with DP278B I am seeking any internal documentation on any aspect of the DECmate III or III+ and any of their options, the DECmate II's option boards or any documentation beyond the II's programmers reference manual (which is woefully inadequate and incomplete). I understand there is a small manual that explains certain aspects of WPS for DECmates that might have a few useful tidbits, but I lack the DEC part number. Anyone have any of these? Their only use will be to enhance PDP-8/DECmate software for non-profit. Anyone know of any direct or indirect paths to the various DEC people who might have access to any of this? I can give some author's names of some of the relevant stuff if it helps. Anyway, here is the announcement from Columbia which has been there since early September. Feel free to retrieve the mentioned files! cjl (lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) Date: 05-October-1989 From: lasner@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) Subject: Announcing KERMIT-12 Version 10f Keywords: PDP-8, PDP-12, VT-78, VT-278, DECmate, OS/8 Xref: DEC PDP, See PDP This is to announce the release and availability of a highly revamped KERMIT program for the complete family of Digital Equipment Corporation 12-bit computers, known as KERMIT-12 (or K12MIT), Ver. 10f. Unlike its predecessors (K08MIT and K278, upon which it is partially based, as well as prior versions of KERMIT-12), KERMIT-12, as now distributed, will run on any PDP-8 model (8, Linc-8, 8/i, 8/l, 8/e, 8/f, 8/m, 8/a), PDP-12, VT-78, or DECmate (VT-278, aka DECmate I, DECmate II, DECmate III, DECmate III-plus) under any OS/8 family member operating system. Proper operation is accomplished automatically. Companion utilities are provided to deal with "ASCII-fied" binary files in ENCODE format (a mechanism designed by Charles Lasner and Frank da Cruz as a proposed successor to BOO format); ENCODE format has been employed to distribute the binary portion of this release of KERMIT-12. Due to the myriad port requirements of the various models, conditional parameters have been provided in the source (as well as a separate patching file) for models prior to DECmate I. The program auto-configures for all models of DECmate; parameters are available to select the DECmate ports (DP278, communications, printer, etc.) where applicable. Many improvements have been provided to get this KERMIT "up to speed" relative to other KERMITs. KERMIT-12 has been tested successfully with many KERMIT implementations and will run at the maximum baud rate (and sometimes beyond the DEC-stated limit!) of the relevant interface. Any console terminal configuration acceptable to OS/8, etc. can be used at any baud rate as long as local flow-control protocol is obeyed; remote flow control can be disabled at console speeds higher than the remote line rate. Connect mode I/O is fully ring-buffered in all directions with local flow control always enabled for all console terminal operations. (This should satisfy all console terminal requirements ranging from 110-baud teletypes to built-in 350-Kbaud VT-220 emulators, since any of the gamut of these ASCII terminals could be the system console terminal for any of the KERMIT-12 supported computer configurations!). KERMIT-12 will run anywhere OS/8 does, so it runs on any perfect look-alike suitably configured. Some known compatibles are: - TPA made in Hungary, this machine is an 8/l except for the silkscreened letters which are Magyar, not English. - Fabritek MP-12 - Intersil Intercept - Pacific CyberMetrix PCM-12 - Digital Computer Controls DCC-112 and DCC-112H - Computer Extensions CPU-8 (a drop-in replacement for the 8/e or 8/a cpu for a PDP-8/A-400 or -600 hex-wide box) - Computer Extensions SBC-8 (a single-board computer -8 compatible based on the 6120 like a DECmate, but compatible with -8 peripherals, not DECmate peripherals; it also supports up to 16 comm ports) Various emulators are available for PDP-10, 15 and the IBM-PC which will also support KERMIT-12 if suitably configured. Distribution files are available from CUCCA. Testing is under way for some of the more obscure configurations (e.g., DECmate III with comm port); volunteers are welcome for this task. The author can provide copies to interested parties on virtually all of the popular PDP-8 media on a time-available basis. [Ed. - Many thanks, Charles! The files are in Kermit Distribution area D with prefix K12, and the previous PDP-8 versions having prefixes K08 and K278 have been retired. Internet users may ftp the files as kermit/d/k12*, and BITNET users can get them from KERMSRV at CUVMA as K12* *.] ------------------------------ Date: Thu Sep 6 1990 11:00:00 EDT From: Charles Lasner Subject: Announcing KERMIT-12 Version 10g Keywords: PDP-8, PDP-12, VT-78, DECmate, OS/8 Xref: DEC PDP, See PDP This is a maintenance release of KERMIT-12. A minor problem relating to incorrect CPU identification messages has been fixed. The problem only appeared when the CPU was a KK-8A single-board CPU; this configuration was previously untested. Thanks to Johnny Billquist of Sweden for his assistance in pinning down the problem. KERMIT-12 operation was not affected in any other way, as only the DECmate-specific identification is crucial; earlier PDP-8 family members are treated in a generic fashion except for the "frill" of model identification (all PDP-8, PDP-12, VT-78 models use software-compatible port hardware; all DECmates are incompatible and must be handled individually). We are still looking for volunteers to test the various DECmate III and DECmate III+ configurations. The rest of the release concerns the encoding of files into the "ASCII-fied" format. The format has been modified to be more robust, since the original method has proven itself to be problematic in certain practical circumstances (as reported in K12MIT.BWR). The new ENCODing format is based on five-bit encoding with repeat compression. As much as 256 repeated 12-bit words will be expressed in a five character field. Any repeated 12-bit value can be compressed, as opposed to simple zero compression, as in other common encoding schemes. (PDP-8 files often have repeated strings of the value 7402 octal, which is the HLT instruction.) The only printing characters required to pass through any distribution "path" are 0-9, A-V, X, and Z. The alphabetic characters can also be lower-case. All command lines are framed by ( and ); all data lines are framed by < and >. These characters can be changed if required, as they are not part of the data; they could be replaced by W (w) and Y (y) if necessary. (Changing the framing characters requires slight modification of the ENCODing and DECODing programs.) The new format supports a 60-bit file checksum to ensure proper decoding at the other end. The former 12-bit checksum could be compromised on long files. The new ENCODing programs creates internal (REMARK commands stating the ENCODed file's creation date, and the original file's creation date. This will aid in distribution of PDP-8 files where the user wishes to maintain proper file dates. The date algoritm used is the one proscribed by the OS/8 DIRECT program. (OS/8 systems only OPTIONALLY support file dates, and there is an eight-year "anomaly" associated with identifying the year; the user must determine the credibility of the year portion of the date. The value provided by the ENCODE program for the original file creation date is always today's year or the previous seven years as necessary; this field will not be provided if the system doesn't support the required AIW feature.) Overall file size is theoretically as much as 6/5 of the original encoding format (as the earlier format was based on six-bit encoding), but actual size varies downward due to slightly less file overhead (wider lines mean less CR LF; there is now less automatically generated verbiage), and the random improvement afforded by simple repeat compression. Virtually all K12MIT-related files are re-released at this time. There are several new files. Due to the "fragile" nature of TECO macro files, the file K12GLB.TEC is no longer being distributed directly; the file K12GLB.ENC is the same file in the new ENCODE format. The new files have been installed in the regular places: BITNET/EARN Internet KERMSRV@CUVMA watsun.cc.columbia.edu Description K12MIT ENC kermit/d/k12mit.enc Encoded binary of KERMIT-12 K12MIT DOC kermit/d/k12mit.doc Documentation file K12MIT BWR kermit/d/k12mit.bwr Updated "beware" file K12MIT DSK kermit/d/k12mit.dsk Description of RX02 diskettes K12MIT ANN kermit/d/k12mit.ann Announcement of KERMIT-12 K12MIT UPD kermit/d/k12mit.upd Release update file K12DEC PAL kermit/d/k12dec.pal Decoding program K12ENC PAL kermit/d/k12enc.pal Encoding program K12PL8 ENC kermit/d/k12pl8.enc Encoded binary of PAL8 Ver B0 K12CRF ENC kermit/d/k12crf.enc Encoded binary of CREF Ver B0 K12MIT PAL kermit/d/k12mit.pal Main source file of KERMIT-12 K12PCH PAL kermit/d/k12pch.pal KERMIT-12 source patch file K12CLR PAL kermit/d/k12clr.pal Memory clearing file K12MIT LST kermit/d/k12mit.lst Symbols-only listing file K12PRM PAL kermit/d/k12prm.pal Sample VT-78 config file K12GLB ENC kermit/d/k12glb.enc Encoded TECO file macro K12ENC DOC kermit/d/k12enc.doc Encoding format description [Ed. - Many thanks, Charles. Believe it or not, there are still quite a few PDP-8 based systems out there, and even some PDP-12s. You won't find very many other new software packages that support them!] That's it! A new release will probably occur in less than a month, but's that's where we are now. cjl Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Fri, 19 Oct 90 16:49:42 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Fri, 19 Oct 90 16:47:31 EDT Received: from gateway.sequent.com (sequent.com) by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA00216; Fri, 19 Oct 90 16:07:55 EDT Received: from eng3.sequent.com by gateway.sequent.com (5.61/1.34) id AA14380; Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:34:59 -0700 Received: by eng3.sequent.com (5.61/1.34) id AA21969; Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:36:09 -0700 Message-Id: <9010191836.AA21969@eng3.sequent.com> To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: Software needed In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 19 Oct 90 13:32:45 PDT." Date: Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:36:08 PDT From: vandys@sequent.com To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: Software needed In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 19 Oct 90 13:32:45 PDT." Date: Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:36:08 PDT From: vandys@sequent.com Hello, I have a PDP-8E on the way (floppy based), and am going to need some software to run on the little beast. Can someone point to needed software? How do I go about putting a boot floppy together? I have an 11/03 and an 11/23 with RX02 floppies, if the format is compatible. Opinions? Advice? Psychiatric counseling? Thanks in advance, Andy Valencia vandys@sequent.com Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Sat, 20 Oct 90 12:09:42 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Sat, 20 Oct 90 12:07:54 EDT Received: from plains.NoDak.edu by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA28487; Fri, 19 Oct 90 12:16:19 EDT Received: by plains.NoDak.edu; Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:14:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:14:33 -0500 From: Todd Enders - WD0BCI Message-Id: <9010191614.AA29376@plains.NoDak.edu> To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: Alternatives.... Date: Fri, 19 Oct 90 11:14:33 -0500 From: Todd Enders - WD0BCI To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: Alternatives.... Well, I seem to be confronted with a quandry. I have been trying to deal with some of the local motor freight companies to get a good rate on shipping a pdp-11 or some drives (ca 900#) from the East coast. They all grin an evil grin, ask how much the equipment is worth, set about digging in their rate books, and come up with the grim answer: for 1000# valued at < $2000, they want $562 (and this was before Sadam Husein)!!! That's more than the equipment is worth just to ship it. What I am interested in is alternative ways (read less expensive) to ship 1-3k pounds ca. the 1500 miles from population to my door. :-) I can think of two ways, but any other ideas would be most welcome. 1. The Road Trip. i.e. drive to where the machine is in a suitable vehicle, retreive the machine, drive back. Advantages: probably the cheapest (< $300 for a vehicle with sufficient load capy.). Disadvantages: many minor annoyances, plus having to take time off from work, long hours of driving, etc. 2. Moving & Storage Co's. Like Allied, Mayflower, etc. I haven't investigated this, but they *may* be cheaper than motor freight, Any experiences? Thanks much in advance! =============================================================================== Todd Enders - WD0BCI ARPA: enders@plains.nodak.edu Computer Center UUCP: ...!uunet!plains!enders Minot State University or: ...!hplabs!hp-lsd!plains!enders Minot, ND 58701 Bitnet: enders@plains "The present would be full of all possible futures, if the past had not already projected a pattern upon it" - Andre' Gide =============================================================================== PS: pdp8 stuff: I see that Columbia University has a new version of Kermit out for the 8 (and also the 12). I saw this in an info-kermit digest a few weeks ago and was supprised to see no mention of it here. I also lost the original posting, so I can't cite it verbatim here. Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Sat, 20 Oct 90 16:27:20 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Sat, 20 Oct 90 16:25:34 EDT Received: from rpi.edu by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA00258; Sat, 20 Oct 90 16:03:35 EDT Received: from MTS.RPI.EDU by rpi.edu (4.1/RPI-ITS-SM50); id AA23767; Sat, 20 Oct 90 15:38:27 EDT for PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu Date: Sat, 20 Oct 90 15:38:56 EDT From: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu To: PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu Message-Id: <1996386@MTS.RPI.EDU> Subject: OS/8 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 90 15:38:56 EDT From: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu To: PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu Subject: OS/8 Does anyone have the last version of a full OS/8 distribution? And does anyone have source to it? Also, if anyone has the OS/8 doc kit I'd like to type it in and leave it where everyone could get a copy (OK, so I'm not taking enough courses this term...). John Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Mon, 22 Oct 90 10:17:57 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Mon, 22 Oct 90 10:16:09 EDT Received: from mc.lcs.mit.edu by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA22493; Mon, 22 Oct 90 09:57:37 EDT Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by mc.lcs.mit.edu id aa09414; 22 Oct 90 9:56 EDT Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 0225; Mon, 22 Oct 90 09:55:51 EDT Received: from DRAKE.BITNET (AC4691A) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (Mailer R2.05) with BSMTP id 6284; Mon, 22 Oct 90 09:55:50 EDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 90 08:39 CST From: AC4691A%DRAKE.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at mc.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Wanted... To: pdp8-lovers@mc.lcs.mit.edu X-Original-To: pdp8-lovers@mc.lcs.mit.edu, AC4691A Message-Id: <9010220956.aa09414@mc.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 90 08:39 CST From: AC4691A%DRAKE.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at mc.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Wanted... To: pdp8-lovers@mc.lcs.mit.edu X-Original-To: pdp8-lovers@mc.lcs.mit.edu, AC4691A I have many 'vintage' DEC machines. pdp11/34, pdp11/23 and a "brand new" MicroPDP that I just acquired. What I want is any and all pdp software I can get my little hands on. Sending 20 bucks a pop to DECUS is a little out of my budget. So, if you have ANYTHING for the pdp's just let me know and maybe we can make an arrangement of some sort. Thanks... AC4691A@DRAKE on Bitnet Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Tue, 23 Oct 90 23:22:14 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Tue, 23 Oct 90 23:20:18 EDT Received: from BU.EDU by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA01642; Tue, 23 Oct 90 22:51:40 EDT Received: by BU.EDU (1.99) Tue, 23 Oct 90 22:51:32 EDT Received: by icad.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03454; Tue, 23 Oct 90 21:43:23 EDT Date: Tue, 23 Oct 90 21:43:23 EDT From: lcs@icad.com (Larry Stone) Message-Id: <9010240143.AA03454@icad.COM> To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: DG machine needs a home Cc: griscom@media-lab.media.mit.edu Date: Tue, 23 Oct 90 21:43:23 EDT From: lcs@icad.com (Larry Stone) To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: DG machine needs a home Cc: griscom@media-lab.media.mit.edu I saw this on UseNet and thought it might be of interest even to some collectors of DEC iron: Path: icad!bu.edu!husc6!gramian!page From: page@gramian.harvard.edu (John Page) Newsgroups: ne.forsale Subject: Free computer system Date: 22 Oct 90 16:32:46 GMT **************FREE********FREE*********FREE**********FREE*********** We have a Data General S20 Eclipse system; Before you throw up, note that this machine has a rather nice analog subsystem, and includes a software package known as SAM; sensor manager hardware includes: analog and digital I/O 8" hard disk 8" floppy Please send E-mail soon before we gut it out for the rack Received: from BULLDOG.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Thu, 25 Oct 90 05:28:51 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by BULLDOG.CS.YALE.EDU; Thu, 25 Oct 90 05:27:02 EDT Received: from gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA15997; Thu, 25 Oct 90 04:54:44 EDT Received: by gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU id AA02828; Thu, 25 Oct 90 04:54:42 EDT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 90 04:54:42 EDT Message-Id: <9010250854.AA02828@gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU> To: info-pdp11@transarc.com, pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: Free PDP11/45s to good home From: Michael A. Patton Sender: map@gaak.lcs.mit.edu Date: Thu, 25 Oct 90 04:54:42 EDT To: info-pdp11@transarc.com, pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: Free PDP11/45s to good home From: Michael A. Patton Sender: map@gaak.lcs.mit.edu The Tech Model Railroad Club has just "upgraded" from 11/45 to 11/34 and now has two (well, more like one and a half) PDP 11/45 systems available for the low price of "Come and take it away". There are two systems, both mounted in one 19 inch rack (6 feet, required to get two 45s in :-). Neither system is completely working, one system is only missing one power supply brick, the other failed and we never diagnosed it, it seems to be a power problem. These are CPU only, no memory or peripherals installed. The combination should be able to make at least one working system. It will probably make two without much work (but we only have one XX2247 :-) and only a few standard DEC parts. Any Unibus memory would be sufficient. If you're interested and/or want more details, contact me at MAP@LCS.MIT.Edu, phone +1-(617)-253-6061 (11-5 EST). __ /| /| /| \ Michael A. Patton, Computer Committee / | / | /_|__/ Tech Model Railroad Club (TMRC) / |/ |/ |atton Massachusetts Institute of Technology Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Thu, 25 Oct 90 15:34:17 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Thu, 25 Oct 90 15:32:22 EDT Received: from gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA23899; Thu, 25 Oct 90 15:06:09 EDT Received: by gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU id AA26654; Thu, 25 Oct 90 15:06:01 EDT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 90 15:06:01 EDT From: brian@gaak.lcs.mit.edu (Brian McAllister) Message-Id: <9010251906.AA26654@gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU> To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Date: Thu, 25 Oct 90 15:06:01 EDT From: brian@gaak.lcs.mit.edu (Brian McAllister) To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Date: October 18, 1990 From: Jack Reyes Perception Technology Corp 40 Shawmut Park Canton, MA 02021 (617) 821-0320 x 283 To: Anyone interested in donated hardware Our company has just recently "cleaned house" and I am looking for interested parties that would like to receive a donation of used hardware. The inventory is as follows: o PDP 11/34 system with RL02 drives o PTC proprietary speech equipment boards (ARM-I and AF-I's) o Wall Transformers/Adapters (12v & 24v AC and DC) o Telemetrics equipment o VT100's o VT103's o VT220's o VT101's o keyboards (for above) o DEC RX180 Floppy Disk drives o DECwriter II printer o Modems (300/1200/2400 baud) o Components, Chips, Etc. o Power Supplies o Chassis (various BA-11 Q-bus) o Emulex PE05 tape drive o Scotch DC600A High Density tape cassette media o DTMF keypads o Audio test gear If you have any interest in any or all of the above inventory, please contact me by phone ASAP! Note: DO NOT REPLY BY MAIL as I have no way of reading it! If you do not have a need for this equipment but know someone who might, please have them contact me ASAP! This equipment is scheduled for the trash masher if I cannot find someone to claim it in the next several days. So, please call me ASAP! Regards, Jack Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by BUGS.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU; Thu, 25 Oct 90 16:03:53 EDT Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by ELI.CS.YALE.EDU; Thu, 25 Oct 90 16:01:37 EDT Received: from sunic.sunet.se by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA24247; Thu, 25 Oct 90 15:24:27 EDT Received: from AIDA.CSD.UU.SE by sunic.sunet.se (5.61+IDA/KTH/LTH/1.159) id AAsunic17243; Thu, 25 Oct 90 20:24:13 +0100 Date: Thu 25 Oct 90 20:24:03 From: Johnny Billquist Subject: Re: Software needed To: vandys@sequent.com Cc: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu, D89.JOHNNY-BILLQUIST@aida.csd.uu.se In-Reply-To: <9010191836.AA21969@eng3.sequent.com> Message-Id: <901025202403.26.D89.JOHNNY-BILLQUIST@AIDA.CSD.UU.SE> Date: Thu 25 Oct 90 20:24:03 From: Johnny Billquist Subject: Re: Software needed To: vandys@sequent.com Cc: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu, D89.JOHNNY-BILLQUIST@aida.csd.uu.se In-Reply-To: <9010191836.AA21969@eng3.sequent.com> If no closer source shows up, I can fix you some floppies... Johnny (In Sweden, there should be some closer guys...)