Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by CASPER.NA.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Sun, 25 Jul 1993 02:24:52 -0400 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Sun, 25 Jul 1993 02:24:47 -0400 Received: from rpi.edu by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) for narem@cs.yale.edu id AA12980; Sun, 25 Jul 93 02:07:28 EDT Received: from MTS.RPI.EDU by rpi.edu (4.1/SMHUB41); id AA21793; Sun, 25 Jul 93 02:07:19 EDT for PDP8-LOVERS@AI.MIT.EDU Date: Sun, 25 Jul 93 02:07:12 EDT From: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu To: INFO-PDP11@transarc.com, PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, TOPS-20@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Message-Id: <3714790@MTS.RPI.EDU> Subject: COMPUTER ENGINEERING: a DEC view, etc. etc. etc. Date: Sun, 25 Jul 93 02:07:12 EDT From: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu To: INFO-PDP11@transarc.com, PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, TOPS-20@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Subject: COMPUTER ENGINEERING: a DEC view, etc. etc. etc. Just in case I wasn't the only one looking for this fine book, it has in fact gone out of print, the good news is that DEC donated many copies to the Computer Museum in Boston. Someone was recently selling it on the net for $30, DEC sold them last year for $25, but the Computer Museum gift shopt has them right now for $14.95 shrink wrapped. They told me they have lots more copies (and the Project Whirlwind book too, $17.95, interesting but very poorly written) and they'll sell them by mail order too, call (617) 426-2800 x307. Their used book shelf is mega-cool too, we picked up the 1970 PDP10 processor manual for 49 cents (not bad, RPI's library sent me a bill for almost $300 the time I tried not returning their copy to see what would happen!), and the PDP-1 instruction set book for $6. They won't sell those books by mail though, you have to go in person. We had more fun buying books than we did in the museum, most of the big iron exhibits have been torn out (what ever happened to that big chunk of AN/FSQ-7 that used to be by the entrance? and the only PDP's were an 8/E, and 8/A, and the front panel from a KA10, lame). Just for your information. It made *my* day. John Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by CASPER.NA.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 26 Jul 1993 19:08:46 -0400 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Mon, 26 Jul 1993 19:08:32 -0400 Received: from turtle.mcc.com by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) for narem@cs.yale.edu id AA22861; Mon, 26 Jul 93 18:36:28 EDT Received: from stone.mcc.com by turtle.mcc.com (4.1/isd-master_921116_15:19) id AA15592; Mon, 26 Jul 93 17:36:11 CDT Received: by stone.mcc.com (5.65/isd-other_921116_15:19) id AA23071; Mon, 26 Jul 1993 17:36:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 17:36:08 CDT From: Clive Dawson To: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu Cc: INFO-PDP11@transarc.com, PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, TOPS-20@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Subject: Re: COMPUTER ENGINEERING: a DEC view, etc. etc. etc. In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 25 Jul 93 02:07:12 EDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 17:36:08 CDT From: Clive Dawson To: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu Cc: INFO-PDP11@transarc.com, PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, TOPS-20@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Subject: Re: COMPUTER ENGINEERING: a DEC view, etc. etc. etc. In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 25 Jul 93 02:07:12 EDT >John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu writes: > ... We had more fun buying books than we did in the museum, most of the big iron exhibits have been torn out (what ever happened to that big chunk of AN/FSQ-7 that used to be by the entrance? and the only PDP's were an 8/E, and 8/A, >and the front panel from a KA10, lame). Back in 1984, when we celebrated the 20th Anniversary of 36-bit computing at the Fall DECUS Symposium, we had the Stanford PDP-6 on display. This system was then donated to the Computer Museum. To my knowledge it has never been displayed at the museum, and, if memory serves, I've never seen the gift acknowledged in any of the museum's reports. Does anybody know the actual whereabouts of this system? Clive Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by CASPER.NA.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 27 Jul 1993 02:52:45 -0400 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 27 Jul 1993 02:52:42 -0400 Received: from siemens.siemens.com by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) for narem@cs.yale.edu id AA08717; Tue, 27 Jul 93 02:34:31 EDT Received: from lovecraft by siemens.siemens.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #22) id m0oKicC-00198GC; Tue, 27 Jul 93 02:34 EDT Received: by lovecraft (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02582; Tue, 27 Jul 93 02:34:24 EDT Date: Tue, 27 Jul 93 02:34:24 EDT From: aad@siemens.siemens.com (Anthony A. Datri) Message-Id: <9307270634.AA02582@lovecraft> To: INFO-PDP11@transarc.com, PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, TOPS-20@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Subject: Re: COMPUTER ENGINEERING: a DEC view, etc. etc. etc. Date: Tue, 27 Jul 93 02:34:24 EDT From: aad@siemens.siemens.com (Anthony A. Datri) To: INFO-PDP11@transarc.com, PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, TOPS-20@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Subject: Re: COMPUTER ENGINEERING: a DEC view, etc. etc. etc. I picked up my copy of the DEC bible while at CMU -- it was being used as a textbook for some EE course or another. I paid $28 in what looks to have been 1987. Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by CASPER.NA.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 27 Jul 1993 22:48:27 -0400 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Tue, 27 Jul 1993 22:48:15 -0400 Received: from opus.starlab.csc.com by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) for narem@cs.yale.edu id AA18120; Tue, 27 Jul 93 22:12:36 EDT Received: by opus.starlab.csc.com (4.1/SunOS-RJD-1.09) id AA13254; Tue, 27 Jul 93 22:07:19 EDT From: rmsmith@opus.starlab.csc.com (Robert Smith) Message-Id: <9307280207.AA13254@opus.starlab.csc.com> Subject: Re: COMPUTER ENGINEERING: a DEC view, etc. etc. etc. To: aad@siemens.siemens.com (Anthony A. Datri) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 93 22:07:18 EDT Cc: INFO-PDP11@transarc.com, PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, TOPS-20@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil In-Reply-To: <9307270634.AA02582@lovecraft>; from "Anthony A. Datri" at Jul 27, 93 2:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] From: rmsmith@opus.starlab.csc.com (Robert Smith) Subject: Re: COMPUTER ENGINEERING: a DEC view, etc. etc. etc. To: aad@siemens.siemens.com (Anthony A. Datri) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 93 22:07:18 EDT Cc: INFO-PDP11@transarc.com, PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, TOPS-20@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil In-Reply-To: <9307270634.AA02582@lovecraft>; from "Anthony A. Datri" at Jul 27, 93 2:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > I picked up my copy of the DEC bible while at CMU -- it was being used as > a textbook for some EE course or another. I paid $28 in what looks to have > been 1987. > I still have my autographed copy - most of us in Hephastus land signed it for each other cause smudge, John Mac (Yeah John I know I spelled it wrong) and C. Gordon did not mention us workers....I did Get Al Kent and Al Kotok's autographs...and Gordon's as well as the most famous Marty Schwartz, Ted, Bugs, Sully, and the crew... bob Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by CASPER.NA.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 28 Jul 1993 12:17:43 -0400 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 28 Jul 1993 12:17:29 -0400 Received: from UTKVX3.UTK.EDU by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) for narem@cs.yale.edu id AA08992; Wed, 28 Jul 93 11:50:12 EDT Received: from utkvx.utk.edu by utkvx.utk.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #4157) id <01H12PB2EVMO8ZEQ2Z@utkvx.utk.edu>; Wed, 28 Jul 1993 11:49:01 EDT Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 11:49:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat McHugh Subject: PDP-8 stuff To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu Message-Id: <01H12PB2L1GY8ZEQ2Z@utkvx.utk.edu> X-Vms-To: IN%"pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu" X-Vms-Cc: MCHUGH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 11:49:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat McHugh Subject: PDP-8 stuff To: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu" X-Vms-Cc: MCHUGH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT How do I get on the PDP-8 lover's mailing list? I have some equipment someone might be interested in. -Pat w Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by CASPER.NA.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 28 Jul 1993 14:11:59 -0400 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 28 Jul 1993 14:11:47 -0400 Received: from volitans.MorningStar.Com by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) for narem@cs.yale.edu id AA11973; Wed, 28 Jul 93 12:55:54 EDT Received: from remora.MorningStar.Com by volitans.MorningStar.Com (5.65a/93052901) id AA01910; Wed, 28 Jul 93 12:55:51 -0400 Received: by remora.MorningStar.Com (5.65a/93052901) id AA17767; Wed, 28 Jul 93 12:55:48 -0400 Received: by n8emr.cmhnet.org (Ohio AMPR Gateway Smail3.1.16.1 #16.33) id ; Wed, 28 Jul 93 12:54 EDT Received: from kumiss by jcnpc.cmhnet.org with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0oKx64-0000GSC; Tue, 27 Jul 93 18:02 EDT Received: by kumiss.cmhnet.org (V1.16/Amiga) id AA008ol; Tue, 27 Jul 93 17:45:15 EDT Date: Tue, 27 Jul 93 17:45:15 EDT Message-Id: <9307272145.AA008ok@kumiss.cmhnet.org> From: erd@kumiss.cmhnet.org (Ethan Dicks) To: INFO-PDP11@transarc.com, PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, TOPS-20@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Subject: Re: COMPUTER ENGINEERING: a DEC view, etc. etc. etc. Date: Tue, 27 Jul 93 17:45:15 EDT From: erd@kumiss.cmhnet.org (Ethan Dicks) To: INFO-PDP11@transarc.com, PDP8-LOVERS@ai.mit.edu, TOPS-20@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Subject: Re: COMPUTER ENGINEERING: a DEC view, etc. etc. etc. :I picked up my copy of the DEC bible while at CMU -- it was being used as :a textbook for some EE course or another. I paid $28 in what looks to have :been 1987. Wow! I spotted a copy of this book in very fine shape at a flea market in Missouri. The man wouldn't go below $0.50 for it, however. Quite a tome. -ethan Received: from ELI.CS.YALE.EDU by CASPER.NA.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 28 Jul 1993 14:23:54 -0400 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by eli.CS.YALE.EDU via SMTP; Wed, 28 Jul 1993 14:23:45 -0400 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) for narem@cs.yale.edu id AA13237; Wed, 28 Jul 93 13:17:50 EDT Received: from nutrimat.gnu.ai.mit.edu by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Wed, 28 Jul 93 13:17:35 -0400 Received: by nutrimat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (15.11/4.0) id ; Wed, 28 Jul 93 13:17:29 edt Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 13:17:29 edt From: bson@gnu.ai.mit.edu Message-Id: <9307281717.AA15043@nutrimat.gnu.ai.mit.edu> To: MCHUGH@utkvx.utcc.utk.edu Cc: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu In-Reply-To: Pat McHugh's message of Wed, 28 Jul 1993 11:49:00 -0400 (EDT) <01H12PB2L1GY8ZEQ2Z@utkvx.utk.edu> Subject: PDP-8 stuff Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 13:17:29 edt From: bson@gnu.ai.mit.edu To: MCHUGH@utkvx.utcc.utk.edu Cc: pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu In-Reply-To: Pat McHugh's message of Wed, 28 Jul 1993 11:49:00 -0400 (EDT) <01H12PB2L1GY8ZEQ2Z@utkvx.utk.edu> Subject: PDP-8 stuff Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 11:49:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat McHugh X-Vms-To: IN%"pdp8-lovers@ai.mit.edu" X-Vms-Cc: MCHUGH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT How do I get on the PDP-8 lover's mailing list? I have some equipment someone might be interested in. -Pat w You are already on the list, as mchugh@utkvx.utk.edu. Tell me if you'd like me to change it to something else. Let me remind everyone that the proper address for administrative messages like the one above is pdp8-lovers-request@ai.mit.edu. -- Jan Brittenson bson@gnu.ai.mit.edu